Lesson 19
1. Top
2. Kanji in Lesson 19
3. たんご
4. 会話
5. ぶんぽう
1. …そうです: Hearsay
2. …って: Informal Report
3. …たら: If/When...
4. …なくてもいい: Do not...
5. …みたい: Looks/Seems
6. 前に/てから: Before/After
6. れんしゅう
1

…そうです: Hearsay

In this lesson, we will learn another use of …そうです. This pattern is used to report information that you have heard or learned from another source. It can often be translated as “I hear that ...,” “I heard that ...,” “They say that ...,” or “Apparently ....” This use of …そうです is similar to the reporting pattern …と言っていました (“someone said ...”), which we learned in Lesson 12. With hearsay …そうです, however, the speaker does not necessarily identify who actually said it. The information being reported is expressed in the plain form:
 Hearsay (Plain Form + そうです)  
すうがくは むずかしいそうです。 I hear that math is difficult.
すうがくは むずかしくないそうです。 I hear that math is not difficult.
たからくじに あたったそうです。 I hear that she won the lottery.
大きい町じゃなかったそうです。 I hear that it was not a large town.
あの人は ゆうめいだそうです。 I hear that she is famous.
田中さんはさしみがきらいなんだそうです。 I hear that Mr. Tanaka dislikes sashimi.
In the last example, んだ is the plain form of んです:
  • きらいなんです → きらいなんだ → きらいなんだ そうです

Stating the Source: ~によると

To identify the source of the information, use Nによると, meaning “according to N.”

  • 山口先生によると、日本には「ガラパゴス」というけいたい電話があったそうだ。 According to Professor Yamaguchi, there used to be cell phones called “Galapagos” in Japan.
  • 新聞によると、大きいたいふうが日本に来ているそうです。 According to the newspaper, a large typhoon is approaching Japan.
The basic pattern is:
Source によると、 reported information そうです
…によると tells us where the information came from, while …そうです marks the information as something the speaker is reporting rather than stating from direct knowledge.

Hearsay …そうです vs. Appearance …そうです

Do not confuse this hearsay pattern with the appearance …そうです (“looks/seems ...”) introduced in Lesson 15. Although both use そうです, they have different meanings and, importantly, attach to different forms.

1. い-adjectives

Appearance:
  • すうがくは むずかしそうです。 Math looks difficult.

Hearsay:

  • すうがくは むずかしいそうです。 I hear that math is difficult.
Notice the form before そうです:
  • むずかし + そうです → appearance
  • むずかしい + そうです → hearsay

2. Verbs

Appearance:

  • スミスさんは日本に行けそうです。 It looks like Smith will be able to go to Japan.

Hearsay:

  • スミスさんは日本に行けるそうです。
    I hear that Smith can go to Japan.
Again, the forms are different:
  • 行け + そうです → appearance
  • 行ける + そうです → hearsay
With appearance …そうです, the ます-stem of a verb is used. With hearsay …そうです, a complete plain-form verb is used.

3. な-adjectives

Appearance …そうです can also occur with many な-adjectives:

  • スミスさんは ピザが すきそうです。 Smith looks like she likes pizza.

Hearsay …そうです requires だ:

  • スミスさんは ピザが すきだそうです。 I hear that Smith likes pizza.

Similarly:

  • その人は ゆうめいそうです。 That person looks/seems famous.
  • その人は ゆうめいだそうです。 I hear that person is famous.

The appearance form with some な-adjectives may be less natural depending on their meaning and context, but the grammatical pattern itself is:

  • な-adjective stem + そうです → appearance
  • な-adjective + だそうです → hearsay

4. Nouns

The clearest difference appears with nouns. Appearance …そうです does not normally attach directly to a noun:
  • ✽ そこは大きい町そうです。 (intended: That place looks like a large town.)

Hearsay …そうです, however, can follow a noun predicate because it attaches to the complete plain-form sentence:

  • そこは大きい町だそうです。 I hear that it is a large town.

The Key Difference

The two patterns can be distinguished both by meaning and by form:
  Apperance そうです Hearsay そうです
Meaning looks/seems ... I hear that...
Information comes from what the speaker observes another source
Verb Vます stem + そう plain V + そう
い-adjective stem without い + そう plain adjective + そう
な-adjective stem + そう …だ + そう
Noun Normally, not possible …だ + そう
Compare:
  • 雨がふりそうです。 It looks like it is going to rain. → The speaker looks at the sky and makes an inference.
  • 雨がふるそうです。 I hear that it is going to rain. → The speaker learned this information from someone, the weather forecast, etc.

This distinction is important:

  • Appearance …そうです expresses the speaker's judgment based on what things look like.

  • Hearsay …そうです reports information obtained from another source.
2

…って: Informal/Casual Report

In casual conversation, the quotation marker と is often replaced by って:
  • …と言っていました → …って言ってた someone was saying ...

Furthermore, って言ってた can often be shortened to って when it is clear from the context that the speaker is reporting something that he/she heard.

Plain-form sentence + って

In this sentence-final use, …って functions much like the hearsay pattern …そうです (“I hear that ... / They say that ...”), but it is casual and conversational. Compare:
  • スミスさんはNYに行ったそうです。 I hear that Ms. Smith went to New York.
  • スミスさんはNYに行ったって。 I hear Ms. Smith went to New York.

The second sentence is appropriate in casual conversation with friends, family members, and others with whom informal speech is appropriate.

Hearsay: Plain Form + って

  1. すうがくは むずかしいって。 I hear that math is difficult.

  2. スミスさんは NYに行ったって。 I hear that Ms. Smith went to New York.
  3. 大きい町じゃなかったって。 I hear that it wasn't a big town.

With nouns and な-adjectives, だ appears in the non-past affirmative plain form:

  1. ゆうめいな歌手(かしゅ)だって。 I hear she's a famous singer.
Notice that the な in ゆうめいな歌手 belongs to the noun phrase “famous singer,” while だ is the plain-form copula:
  • ゆうめいな歌手 + だ + って

って言ってた vs. って

The longer form explicitly indicates that someone said something:
  • 田中さんは来ないって言ってた。 Tanaka said that he isn't coming.

When the source or context is already understood, 言ってた can be omitted:

  • 田中さんは来ないって。 I hear Tanaka isn't coming. / Tanaka says he isn't coming.

Thus, sentence-final って often has the conversational sense of:

  • “I heard that ...”

  • “They say that ...”
  • “Someone said that ...”
Exactly who supplied the information is usually understood from context.

って with the Explanatory …んだ

The information being reported can itself contain the explanatory form …んだ:

  1. ゆうめいな歌手なんだって。 I hear she's a famous singer.

The んだ belongs to the information being reported. It adds the explanatory/background nuance that we learned previously. Similarly:

  1. ゆうめいな歌手だったんだって。 I hear she was a famous singer.

The difference between だって and なんだって is therefore the same basic difference as between だ and なんだ:

  • ゆうめいな歌手だ。 She's a famous singer.
  • → ゆうめいな歌手だって。 I hear she's a famous singer.
  • ゆうめいな歌手なんだ。 She's a famous singer. [explanatory/background information]
  • → ゆうめいな歌手なんだって。 I hear she's a famous singer. [reporting that explanatory/background information]

The exact English translation of んだ depends on the context, so it does not always need to be translated explicitly.

…そうです vs. …って

Both patterns can report information obtained from someone else:
  • 田中さんは来ないそうです。 I hear that Tanaka isn't coming.
  • 田中さんは来ないって。 I hear Tanaka isn't coming.
The major difference is style:
  …そうです …って
Function hearsay/report hearsay/casual report
Style neutral/polite casual/conversational
Typical context general conversation, more formal situations conversation with friends, family, peers
Source may be stated with …によると usually understood from context
Thus, sentence-final って is a very common way to pass along something you have heard in everyday casual conversation.
3

~たら: If/When...

We previously learned …たらどうですか (“Why don't you ...?” / “How about ...?”) as a way to make a gentle suggestion. The たら form used in that expression is part of a more general conditional pattern:
Aたら、 B
If/When A, (then) B
This pattern presents A as a condition for B. In other words, B applies or happens if/when condition A is satisfied. The たら form is made by adding ら to the plain past form:
  Plain past たら form
Verb 行った 行ったら
い-adjective さむかった さむかったら
な-adjective べんりだった べんりだったら
Noun 夜だった 夜だったら
Negative 行かなかった 行かなかったら

Negative い-adj.

やすくなかった やすくなかったら
Negative noun/な-adj. しずかじゃなかった しずかじゃなかったら
Although …たら is formed from the plain past form, it does not necessarily refer to the past.

Condition + Result

  • よかったら、どうぞ。 If you'd like, please go ahead. / Please have some.
  • あしたさむかったら、コートを着(き)て行きます。 If it is cold tomorrow, I will wear a coat.
  • NYに行ったら、田中さんに会います。 When/if I go to New York, I will see Ms. Tanaka.
  • この本を読んだら、かしてあげるよ。 When I finish reading this book, I'll lend it to you.
  • 夜だったら、そこはあいています。 If it's nighttime, that place is open.
  • べんりだったら、買いたいです。 If it's convenient, I'd like to buy one.
  • やすくなかったら、ほしくありません。 If it isn't cheap, I don't want one.
  • 5時までに来なかったら、私は帰ります。 If he doesn't come by five, I'll leave.
  • お金持ちだったら、大きい家に住みたい。If I were rich, I'd like to live in a big house.
  • しずかじゃなかったら、こまりますね。 If it isn't quiet, that will be a problem.

“If” or “When”?

Depending on the context, …たら can correspond to either “if” or “when” in English. When A is expected to happen, English often uses “when”:
  • この本を読んだら、かしてあげるよ。 When I finish reading this book, I'll lend it to you.
  • 家に帰ったら、電話します。 When I get home, I'll call you.
  • おわったら、でかけましょう。 When it's finished, let's go out.
When A is uncertain, hypothetical, or contrary to the current situation, English normally uses “if”:
  • 3時までにスミスさんが来なかったら、私は帰ります。 If Ms. Smith doesn't come by three, I'll leave.
  • さむかったら、ストーブをつけてください。 If it's cold, turn on the heater.
  • 私だったら、あの人とはつきあいません。 If I were you, I wouldn't date him.
  • お金があったら、世界中をりょこうしたい。 If I had the money, I'd like to travel around the world.
Thus, …たら itself does not mean exclusively “if” or “when.” The appropriate English translation depends on how the speaker views condition A.

Sequence: A Happens Before B

When A and B describe events, …たら normally presents B as something that happens after A has been realized or completed.
  • 日本に行ったら、カメラを買いたいです。 When I get to Japan, I'd like to buy a camera.
The natural sequence is:
  • go/get to Japan → buy a camera
Similarly:
  • 家に帰ったら、電話します。 When I get home, I'll call you.
  • get home → call
For this reason, …たら is not appropriate when B must happen before A.
  • △ 日本に行ったら、カメラを持(も)っていきます。 (intended: When I go to Japan, I'll take my camera with me.)
The intended action of taking the camera begins before going to Japan, so …たら does not express the intended relationship well. Instead:
  • 日本に行くなら、カメラを持っていきます。 If I'm going to Japan, I'll take my camera.
    or
  • 日本に行く時、カメラを持っていきます。 When I go to Japan, I'll take my camera.
Similarly:
  • △ 日本に行ったら、パスポートをとるでしょう。 (intended: If I'm going to Japan, I'll probably get a passport.)
You need the passport before going to Japan. Therefore:
  • 日本に行くなら、パスポートをとるでしょう。 If I'm going to Japan, I'll probably get a passport.
Another example:
  • △ 明日、両親が来たら、アパートをそうじしておいたほうがいい。 (intended: If my parents are coming tomorrow, I'd better clean my apartment.)
Cleaning the apartment should happen before the parents arrive. Therefore:
  • 明日、両親が来るなら、アパートをそうじしておいたほうがいい。 If my parents are coming tomorrow, I'd better clean my apartment.

Important

This “A before B” relationship is especially important when A and B are events. When A describes a state or condition, however, it does not need to be “completed” before B:

  • さむかったら、コートを着ます。 If it's cold, I'll wear a coat.
  • お金持(かねも)ちだったら、大きい家に住(す)みたい。 If I were rich, I'd like to live in a big house.
Here, being cold and being rich are conditions under which B applies.

Past Events: “When A Happened, B Was the Case”

…たら can also describe what the speaker found, noticed, or experienced after A happened:
  • たろうくんが学校に行ったら、だれもいませんでした。 When Taro got to school, no one was there.
Here, Taro went to school and then discovered the situation:
  • Taro got to school → he found that no one was there
This use of …たら is especially common when B describes a newly discovered, unexpected, or noteworthy situation.
  • まどをあけたら、雪(ゆき)がふっていました。 When I opened the window, I saw that it was snowing.
  • 家に帰ったら、友だちが来ていました。 When I got home, I found that my friend was there.
  • 店に行ったら、もうしまっていました。 When I got to the store, it was already closed.
Surprise is common in this pattern, but it is not required. The important point is that B is presented as the situation or event encountered upon or after the realization of A.

Compare …時(とき):

  • たろうくんが学校に行った時、だれもいませんでした。 When Taro went/got to school, no one was there.
This simply locates the situation in time.
  • たろうくんが学校に行ったら、だれもいませんでした。 When Taro got to school, he found that no one was there.
The …たら version more naturally presents the second situation as what occurred or was discovered once the first event took place.

Be Careful with Deliberate Past Actions

When simply narrating two deliberate actions that someone performed in sequence, …たら may not be the most natural way to connect them:
  • △ たろうくんが学校に行ったら、勉強しました。 (intended: When Taro got to school, he studied.)
This sounds odd if 勉強しました is simply the next planned action in a past narrative. For a simple statement about when he studied, use 時:
  • たろうくんが学校に行った時、勉強しました。 When Taro went to school, he studied.
Or, if the intended meaning is “After he got to school, he studied,” another sequence expression may be more appropriate. This restriction mainly concerns the past temporal/discovery use of …たら. It does not mean that B can never be a controllable action. In conditional or future sentences, B can freely express an intention, request, suggestion, or command:
  • 家に帰ったら、電話します。 When I get home, I'll call.
  • 家に帰ったら、電話してください。 When you get home, please call.
  • 家に帰ったら、いっしょに食べましょう。 When we get home, let's eat together.

Contrary-to-Fact Past Conditions

…たら can also describe a hypothetical past condition that did not actually happen. In this case, English uses “if ... had ...”:
  • きのう学校に行ったら、田中さんに会えたでしょう。 If I had gone to school yesterday, I probably could have seen Tanaka.
The context tells us that the speaker did not go to school. The speaker is imagining what would have happened if the situation had been different.

Summary

The basic meaning of Aたら、B is:
  • Once/if condition A is realized, B follows or applies.
This produces several common English translations:
  • When A happens, B ...
  • If A happens, B ...
  • When A happened, B was/followed ...
  • If A had happened, B would have ...

When A and B are events, remember that …たら normally establishes A before B. When A is a state or condition, A provides the circumstances under which B applies.

4

…なくてもいい: Do not have to...

We previously learned …てもいい, which expresses permission:

  • ここにすわってもいいです。 You may sit here. / It is okay to sit here.

This pattern can also be used with the negative て form …なくて:

  • …なくてもいい do not have to ...; do not need to ...; it does not have to be ...

Literally, …なくてもいい means “even if ... is not the case, it is okay.” In natural English, however, it is usually translated as “do not have to” or “do not need to.”

Verb

  • くつをぬがなくてもいいです。 You don't have to take off your shoes. (Lit. It is okay even if you don't take off your shoes.)

Here, taking off your shoes is not necessary. You may take them off, but you do not have to.

な-adjective / Noun

For な-adjectives and nouns, use …じゃなくてもいい:

  • きれいじゃなくてもいいです。 It doesn't have to be clean. (Lit. It is okay even if it isn't clean.)

い-adjective

For い-adjectives, change …い to …くなくて:

  • あたらしくなくてもいいです。 It doesn't have to be new. (Lit. It is okay even if it isn't new.)

…てもいい vs. …なくてもいい

Compare:

  • くつをぬいでもいいです。 You may take off your shoes. → Taking them off is permitted.

  • くつをぬがなくてもいいです。 You don't have to take off your shoes. → Taking them off is not necessary.

The negative form …なくてもいい does not mean “You must not ....” It means that doing something is optional rather than required. Compare:

  • くつをぬがなくてもいいです。 You don't have to take off your shoes.
  • くつをぬいではいけません。 You must not take off your shoes.

These two sentences are very different: …なくてもいい expresses lack of necessity, while …てはいけない expresses prohibition.

5

…みたい: Looks/Seems like

…みたいです is a casual expression used to say that something looks, seems, or appears to be a certain way. The speaker draws an inference based on what he/she sees, hears, or otherwise knows about the situation. It can often be translated as:

  • “It looks like ...”
  • “It seems like ...”
  • “Apparently ...”
Unlike the appearance pattern …そうです, …みたいです can follow a noun, な-adjective, or a complete plain-form sentence.
Predicate type Form + みたいです
Verb plain form + みたいです
い-adjective plain form + みたいです
な-adjective stem + みたいです
Noun noun + みたいです

Notice that だ is not used before みたいです with nouns and な-adjectives.

い-adjective

  1. スミスさんがうらやましいみたいです。 He/She seems to be envious of Smith.

Verb

  1. 田中さんはりこんしたみたいです。 It seems that Mr. Tanaka got divorced.
  2. きのう雨がふったみたいです。 It looks like it rained yesterday.

Noun

  1. あの女の子は男の子みたいです。 That girl looks like a boy. boy-like girl In this example, みたい expresses resemblance: the girl has some characteristics that make her seem like a boy.

な-adjective

  1. としょかんはにぎやかみたいです。 It sounds like the library is lively.

Negative Forms

Because …みたい follows the plain form, it can easily be used with negative predicates:
  1. そのケーキはおいしくないみたいです。 It looks like the cake isn't very good.
  2. たいふうは日本に来ないみたいです。 It looks like the typhoon isn't coming to Japan.
  3. としょかんはしずかじゃないみたいです。 It seems that the library isn't quiet.

What Is the Inference Based On?

An important feature of …みたいです is that the inference does not have to be based on visual appearance. For example:
  • きのう雨がふったみたいです。 It looks like it rained yesterday.

The speaker obviously cannot see yesterday's rain happening now. Perhaps the streets are wet, people are carrying wet umbrellas, or the speaker has some other evidence. From that evidence, the speaker concludes that it probably rained. Similarly:

  • 田中さんはりこんしたみたいです。 It seems that Mr. Tanaka got divorced.

The speaker may have heard something, noticed a change in Tanaka's situation, or have some other reason for making this inference. Thus, …みたいです can express a conclusion based on various kinds of evidence.

…そうです vs. …みたいです

Do not confuse …みたいです with the appearance pattern …そうです that we learned earlier.

Appearance …そうです usually expresses an immediate impression based on how something looks:

  • このケーキはおいしそうです。 This cake looks delicious. a cake that looks delicious

The speaker looks at the cake and gets the impression that it will taste good. …みたいです, on the other hand, expresses a broader inference based on available evidence:

  • このケーキはおいしいみたいです。 It seems that this cake is delicious.

Perhaps everyone who tries the cake says that it is good, or people keep coming back for more. The speaker uses such information as evidence for the conclusion. Compare:

  • おいしそうです。 It looks delicious. → an immediate impression from its appearance
  • おいしいみたいです。 It seems to be delicious. → a conclusion based on available evidence

The two patterns also differ grammatically:

  • おいしそうです → adjective stem + そうです
  • おいしいみたいです → complete plain-form adjective + みたいです

With verbs:

  • 雨がふりそうです。 It looks like it's going to rain. → The sky looks threatening.
  • 雨がふるみたいです。 It seems that it's going to rain. → There is some evidence or information suggesting that it will rain.

Nみたい: “Like N”

With nouns, みたい often expresses a direct comparison or resemblance:
  • あの女の子は男の子みたいです。 That girl looks/is like a boy.
  • この雲(くも)は犬(いぬ)みたいです。 This cloud looks like a dog.
  • このロボットは人間みたいです。 This robot is like a human.
In this use, Nみたい means “like N” or “resembling N.”

FYI: みたい Works Like a な-adjective

Grammatically, みたい behaves much like a な-adjective. Before a noun, use みたいな:
  • 男の子みたいな女の子: a girl who looks/is like a boy
  • ホテルみたいな家: a house that looks like a hotel
It can also modify a verb with みたいに:
  • 子どもみたいにわらう: laugh like a child
Thus:
  • Nみたいです: is/seems like N
  • Nみたいな + noun: a noun that is like N
  • Nみたいに + verb: do something like N

Style Note

…みたいです is common in everyday conversation and is relatively casual. In more formal or written language, …ようです (Lesson 24) can often be used with a similar meaning.
6

…前に/…てから: Before/After

We previously learned Noun + の + 前(まえ)に to express “before N”:
  • クラスの前に: before class
A verb can also come before 前に to express the order of two events:
  • S1 前に、S2: Before S1, S2
In this pattern, the verb in S1 is always in the plain non-past form:
  • Vる + 前に、S2

Vる前に: Before Doing ...

  • ひげをそる前に、はをみがきます。 I brush my teeth before I shave. The order of events is: brush teeth (S2) → shave (S1)
  • おちゃを入(い)れる前に、おゆをわかしました。 I boiled water before I made tea. The order is: boil water (S2) → make tea (S1)

Notice that 入れる remains in the non-past form even though the main verb わかしました is in the past. This is because the tense of the whole sentence is primarily determined by the main predicate (S2). The verb before 前に indicates its timing relative to S2. At the time S2 happens, S1 has not yet happened. Compare:

  • 日本に行く前に、カメラを買います。 I will buy a camera before I go to Japan.
  • 日本に行く前に、カメラを買いました。 I bought a camera before I went to Japan.
In both sentences, 行く is in the non-past form because going to Japan occurs after buying the camera. The past tense of 買いました in the second sentence tells us that the entire sequence took place in the past.

Vてから: After Doing ...

To express the opposite sequence, use:
  • Vて + から、S2 After doing S1, S2. / Once S1 is done, S2.
With …てから, S1 happens first, and S2 follows.
  • はをみがいてから、かおをあらいます。 I wash my face after I brush my teeth. The order is: brush teeth (S1) → wash face (S2)
  • 日本に行ってから、カメラを買いました。 I bought a camera after I went to Japan. The order is: go to Japan (S1) → buy a camera (S2)
Thus, …前に and …から express opposite sequences:
  • 日本に行く前に、カメラを買いました。 I bought a camera before I went to Japan.
  • 日本に行ってから、カメラを買いました。 I bought a camera after I went to Japan.

…てから Emphasizes the Sequence

The particle から literally has the sense of a starting point (“from”). In Vてから, the completion of S1 serves as the point from which S2 follows. For this reason, …てから often has the sense of: “after doing ...” “once ... is done” “after ... and then ...” For example:
  • しゅくだいをしてから、ゲームをします。 I'll play games after I do my homework. / I'll do my homework first, and then play games.
The sentence clearly establishes the order: homework first, games afterward.

Compare the Two Patterns

Pattern Meaning Order
Vる前に、S2 before doing V, S2 S2 → V
Vてから、S2 after doing V, S2 V → S2
  • ごはんを食べる前に、手をあらいます。 I wash my hands before I eat.
  • ごはんを食べてから、はをみがきます。 I brush my teeth after I eat.

Caution: …てから vs. …たから

Do not confuse Vてから with Vたから. They look similar but have completely different functions. Vてから expresses a sequence:
  • はをみがいてから、ねました。
    I went to bed after brushing my teeth.
Vたから expresses a reason:
  • はをみがいたから、おかしは食べません。 Because I brushed my teeth, I won't eat snacks.
Compare the forms carefully:
  • みがいて + から → after brushing
  • みがいた + から → because (I) brushed
L19-Grammar